The Art of Hospitality is the podcast for vacation rental professionals who want to think differently about what they're building.

Each week, Conrad O'Connell and Adam Norko dig into the ideas, strategies, and conversations shaping the vacation rental industry — from AI and operations to guest experience and growth.

Less fluff. More depth. Always practical.

Latest Episodes

Where Do PMS Platforms Go From Here In The New AI Era? (With Frank Bosi)

We're joined this week by Frank Bosi from Hostfully to talk all things AI, PMS platforms, building tech today vs several years ago, growth, winning with software and o...

Are Vacation Rental SaaS Vendors Going Away? (With Richard Vaughton and Luca De Giglio)

We're joined this week by Luca De Giglio and Richard Vaughton to talk all things SaaS, the growth of agents, building your own PMS platform, coding platforms growth, h...

The Story Of AI Agents Running A 150 Unit Company With 1 Full Time Employee (With Jan Sahagun)

We're joined this week by Jan Sahagun of Trellis (backed by YC) to talk all things agents, the future of STR/Vacation Rentals tech, running with lean teams, 150 proper...

If We Were Going To Build A Vacation Rental Business, How Would We Do It? (With Adam Norko & Conrad O'Connell)

We're solo this week to explore a fun thought experiment: what if we had to open our own vacation rental company? How would we operate it? Fund it? Grow it? What types...

Operator Series: These Vacation Rental Managers Are THE AI Pioneers (With JJ King, Jack Zoppa, Jacob Mueller)

We're joined by an all-star cast from all over the US to talk AI, practical use-cases and growth in tooling that is going to move the needle. JJ King, Jack Zoppa and J...

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